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Savage 110 in .270

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shamntgmry

Posted: Nov 19th 2009, 05:42 PM

I am thinking of sending off the old savage 270 to heart to have the action and chambers trued up and re-barreled. I have done this before and had great results.

What if I don't want to go with .270. lets hear what rounds fit the .270 bolt face. I would rather have a shorter bullet. As far as the caliber and chamber the barrel will have that done.

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Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 07:46 AM

Look at .30-06

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PfcSalt

Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 03:03 PM

I recently upgraded my old Savage 111 (detachable box mag) 30-06 to a new Savage accutrigger set to 2lbs. The work was done at www.savagegunsmithing.com. Call him. Savage factory told me it couldn't be done. But, it can be done by a competent gunsmith. Modification made a huge difference in accuracy, and was done quickly and reasonably. Best bang for the buck.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 03:16 PM

Good to have you on board, Salt!

I love the AccuTrigger on my Savage MkII. How you say? Very niiice!

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Recoil

Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 03:30 PM

Welcome aboard Salt!

Savage (the manufacturer)won't set it to 2lbs because of the liability and it's probably a legalese liability for them to even tell you that it can be set to 2lbs. Most gunsmiths won't set it that light either, unless they know the unit, department or person personally who they are doing the work for. Something else, if you ever have to send your Savage in for any warranty work, recall, or just whatever...you can bet it won't come back to you with a 2lb trigger. They'll do whatever they have to do with it for it not to leave them as a liability. Just a heads up, learned that from the guy I mention in the paragraph below this one.

Hell, I'll put it another way, I have a very close friend who does all my Remmy and Glock work. He wouldn't set my trigger on one of my Remingtons lower than 3 lbs, said he didn't want it on his conscience.

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Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 04:22 PM

RC,

What did you end up setting your 5R to? Mine's at 3 even.

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shamntgmry

Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 06:18 PM

Something "shorter than the 270"
will listen to all but I already have a .308, 7mm-08, and a 30-06.

I know it is a long action but that doesn't mean It cannot be a short action type round if the barrel is correct. So think about what will fit on the "bolt face of a .270" and I can even load by hand one at a time, I have seen this done on other calibers.

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Recoil

Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 06:43 PM

Mem,

Mine's a 2005 model. It doesn't have the accutrigger, so trigger work had to actually be done by a qualified smith. I had to have Ken (mentor and L.D. shooting instructor and friend) do my trigger job. It's set at 3.5lbs and works well with me. He said he'd take it to 3, but won't go lower.

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chiplemas

Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 08:03 PM

Not an expert here myself, 270 and 30-06 is the same case as it the 280, 25-06 seems I am forgetting a couple, haven't looked at the books in a few years as I am attemping to finish a masters degree.

Myself, I prefer the 25-06 its just a little flatter shooting than the 270. but then I have owned both at one time or anther and often together, depending on my urge that year one was primary, the second a backup for weeks hunting.

My only other sugesttion would be to get something you like, in a lighter cal as the ones you have will do much anything you want

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PfcSalt

Posted: Nov 21st 2009, 11:26 PM

shamntgmry, I think the length of your action is a fixed dimension. Changing the length of the action means a new receiver, I'm afraid. But, a match quality barrel in 30-06 will serve you well. Just do the accutrigger at the same time to get the most from your new barrel.

Everyone, It was my privilege to serve, thank you.

An accutrigger retrofit is not something for anyone but a professional gunsmith. I had mine done right by a good professional.

Recoil, I don't mean to flame you, but you are wrong about the Accutrigger. I mean no offense but people need to know facts, not conjecture. I took this from the Savage website, today:

"In centerfire hunting models, muzzleloaders, the Model 40 Varmint Hunter, and most rimfire models, the AccuTrigger™ is adjustable from approximately 2 1/2 to 6 lbs. In the 12 Series Varmint and Law Enforcement Series, the AccuTrigger is adjustable from approximately 1 1/2 lbs to 6 lbs."

My first experience with an accutrigger was on my .17HMR. It is a tackdriver with the best trigger I have ever seen on a cheap rifle. Come to think of it, it is better than the trigger on any mass-produced rifle I have ever fired.

Of course your gunsmith wouldn't set your old trigger in what he considered an unsafe weight.

The whole purpose of the 2-stage accutrigger is that the first stage of the trigger acts a a safety so it can be set to a lower weight. If you drop the gun, it is less likely to have an accidental discharge. Safe at 1.5 lbs., I have the Varmint trigger installed. I just like 2 lbs. 'cause any less isn't practical for hunting. Slamming the bolt home on a rifle with a "hair" trigger can result in an AD. The accutriggers work, are cheap, and have set the mark in triggers for every single manufacturer of firearms to aspire to, as they are all sucking hind tit, now.

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shamntgmry

Posted: Nov 21st 2009, 11:42 PM

PfcSALT, you are reading something wrong there, just because it is a "long action caliber" does not mean it has to be a long action bullet. A person (such as myself I have done it before) can take a long action "receiver" and have it re-barreled and the chamber is in the barrel, and wallaahh,.......the only thing you have to do is make sure you go smaller than the original bullet (less powerful) and the base of the case (where the primer is) is the same size of the bolt face..............this is a fact already, just look at the......................................
.243
.308
7mm-08
6mm Rem ect.

.270
30-06
.280
25-06 ect.

almost everyround these days is made from a modified round that already existed. Do the research.

I want asking to make my LA into a SA phisically I will hand feed the bullets one by one if they don't feed correctly.........

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Recoil

Posted: Nov 22nd 2009, 09:36 AM

Salt,

It's cool, no worries!

I should have clarified my comment further. ANY standardfactory set trigger (non-adjustable by the user(not an accutrigger)) that is manipulated for lighter pull will negate the warranty and they won't work on it if it's ever sent back to the manufacturer.

I'm also pretty confident that if a rifle left their factory with an accutrigger which was factory made to be adjustable from say 2.5 - 6 lbs is adjusted to 2lbs by a gunsmith, itwould void the warranty too.

Bottom line is that if a rifle leaves a factory with a pre-set, non-adjustable trigger pull weight and you manipulate it, or have it manipulated by someone like a gunsmith, it will void the factory warranty. I'm sure the same can be said about an accutrigger too.

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