JINX

Dont know how much help this will be, but I carry a g27 most of the time. I think this is one size smaller the the G23, but I also carry a G21. I have an Uncle Mike holster for both. They are cheap think i paid 30 bucks for both of them. I carry the G27 on my side inside the pants and love the way it feels. At first it felt high on my side but after a few days I have found that i dont notice it anymore.

When I carry the G21,I carry it on my lower back on the waist line inside the pants. Works good if you arnt doing alot of sitting. I also will carry it on my side sometimes inside the pants but it leaves a good print. you can tell something is there if you are looking.

I would try something inside the pants and see what you think. the local gun shop here will let you try any holster you want. So I would try and see if you could do something like that before you buy something.

Been carrying a G19 for years............

The thinnest holster out there is the stock plastic one from Glock - The open bottom one is what I use, Adds almost no bulk to the outline of the pistol.....But with any CCW piece you have to dress accordingly to conceal it, Or go with a smaller piece that can be concealed if your gonna wear a T Shirt.

Sometime​s I just carry a .38J-Frame S&W or a Beretta 21A in a pocket when wearing shorts and flip-flops.

And be prepared for them to get Scratched/Dropped/Sl​ide wear/Etc....All my carry pistols are "Working" guns in my opinion - Not Safe Queens.

Jinx....​

I build holsters for a hobby and carry a gun for a living. The holster you have is low-end, but not poorly designed. A lot of the problem people have with OWB (outside the waist band) holsters, and pancake style specifically, is that they do not wear it with a suitable belt. Most of the time, I wear either a 1.5 inch wide double layer thickness belt (very stiff) or a 1.75 inch wide nylon "instructors belt" from Wilderness tactical or 5.11. Both are stiff and provide the support to hold the weight of the gun and pull the holster into position so that it does not shift or print.

Before I would drop $100 on a new holster, I would seriously recommend you spend $35 on a good belt, if you don't already have one.

I build my pancake holsters with a rear "wing" that helps pull the butt of the gun in a little more, and they are designed to ride high on the belt. I also build my holsters with a "body sheild/sweat guard" because I sell most of them in Az., where a gun close to the body is a rusty gun in the making.

As far as IWB hosters go, I have used them on and off for about 20 years and I find that they work better with some guns than others. My most often used IWB holster is for a 1911. It is slim enough not to cause problems with my pant sizes and it does not dig in and cause me to be uncomfortable. If you try and stuff a thick pistol like a Glock (specifically the 20/21 series) into a IWB holster, expect to buy pants about one size larger and expect for it to become uncomfortable after a few hours of wear. (just my experience.... I am not as thin and tollerant as I once was either.)

I have pretty much settled on the OWB holster for me, because that is where I have trained for the majority of my life to reach for my gun. I had an experience where I was wearing my gun IWB and needed it (or thought I was about to need it) and I ended up reaching for my belt line, where my gun should have been, and it wasn't there.... I ended up "patting my self down" for my gun, when I realized it was further behind my hip and inside the pants.... thank God I didn't need it as fast as I might have otherwise.

Anyway..​. off my soap box. Here are some pictures of my holsters. I conceal them with a t-shirt (untucked) routinely.

Like most folks out there that are serious about carring a gun as a matter of routine, you will findthere is no "one magic holster". Most folks have a milk crate full of holsters for different reasons/uses and most folks will eventually settle on one or two designs that work for them... Most folks also spend alot of money in 'trial and error' testing of holsters... I am no different. The only advantage I enjoy is that if I see something that peaks my curiosity, I can try and make one for myself and tweek the design to fit what I want.

Good luck with your search. Let the rest of use know if you find one that works for you, so we can benifit from your experience to.

-Tac

PS: If you want to talk about a holster for your gun send me a PM and I will see what I can do for you.

hey tac is that a sub compact xd in the 2nd pic? what do you charge for such holsters? im looking to get my permit to conceal soon here

Cohen,

Yes that is a subcompact XD in the second pic. Depending on what is being done on the holster as an option, the price varies. For one as posted in that picture, it would sell for $40.00 shipping. If you are interested in a holster, send me a PM and I will get the perticulars from you. My usual turn around time from order to shipment is about 1-2 weeks. If it will be longer than that, I will let you know up front.

Jinxed,

Most of my hosters are sold to cops and almost all of them train to draw from a vertical cant holster. I can adjust the angle to suit the purchaser. I find the vertical cant draw to be easiest to conceal and draw from on a holster worn stong side, on the hip or just behind. FBI cant (muzzle rear, butt slightly forward) is easier if the gun is worn further behind the hip.

-Tac

Thanks for the post Tac. Nice handywork my friend. And, thanks for information in the posts. I knew my holster was canted with the grip slightly forward, but I didn't know it was named the "FBI cant". It was given to me by a good friend who said he couldn't get used to it. I tried it, liked the feel and now it's what I wear. I learned to wear it slightly aft of the hipbone, just as you mentioned above. It works for me and since I don't have long lanky arms, it plain fits.

*****Edi​t*****

I failed to mention that mine is a Don Hume model.

As Tac56 suggested above, your problem may not be more than having/wearing the correct belt with your holster. A wider belt is better as it gives more support, and be sure that it is at least a good leather belt, or a stiff nylon type belt made for this type of use.

JMHO. What works for me, or anyone else may not be good for you, but once you find something that works and meets your needs, roll with it!

Hey, nothing wrong with with finish wear from carrying.

John Doe,

Sir, if you are directing your question to me, the answer is no. I make all of my holsters for a 1.75 in belt, unless specified otherwise by the person ordering the holster. All I use for carry purposes is a 1.75 inch belt, either a Wilderness instructor belt or a double thickness leather belt.

A 1 inch belt is too narrow to hold the weight of most carry guns heavier than a titanium framed Smith j frame. I have had some success with 1.5 in belts, but they are still usually double thickness in order to hold the weight.

-Tac