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kourtnicole

Posted: Apr 26th 2010, 10:35 PM

What do you guys think of the H&K 45 and the P30? Any complaints, compliments, or do any of you own one? :)

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doctonka

Posted: Apr 26th 2010, 11:03 PM

I really like the grip options on the P30. Just my .04 cents

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Tbird

Posted: Apr 26th 2010, 11:17 PM

Sorry, cannot help. I have shot a lot of guns, but not those two.

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BravoUD

Posted: Apr 26th 2010, 11:41 PM

I have handled both at the gun shop, and I really liked the feel of the P-30, really comfortable. Never shot either though.

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cohenj87

Posted: Apr 27th 2010, 06:46 PM

ive never shot either of them but have heard alot of really good things about hk as im sure everyone has.

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Spot

Posted: Apr 27th 2010, 11:18 PM

I have a HK 45 and love it. Have not shot the P30 but my HK is very smooth.

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CA_LEO

Posted: Apr 28th 2010, 02:18 AM

I do not have any experience with the P30. A lot of guys in my department carry the USP45 because we have an open carry policy with handguns. The USP45 has a great trigger and the trigger reset is awesome. However, if you have smaller hands, like me, the USP45 may be a little too big. When I shoot the USP45 I find myself having to adjust my grip after every couple of shots, much like the Glock 21. With the HK45 you will have interchangeable grips so the grip can be a bit smaller.

Another word of caution is that HK's customer service is geared towards LEO and Military service. If you are a private citizen they put your firearm on the back burner and they have the attitude that if you are lucky enough to possess one of their firearms you will get it back whenever they see fit. But HK makes some of the best firearms in the world in my humble opinion. I just do not like their attitude towards civilians.

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kourtnicole

Posted: Apr 28th 2010, 01:34 PM

I had heard that their customer service wasn't great, but never had to experience it myself. Thank you for your help :)

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Room 055

Posted: Apr 29th 2010, 12:54 PM

I've never heard of anyone needing customer service at HK.

KOURTNICOLE,

I've owned, carried, and shot a HK USP Compact 45 for quite a while now. It has a fantastic feel and trigger. It's simple to strip and clean as well. Quality is top notch. You can't go wrong with any HK product for quality. The HK45 vs the USP? The HK45 has a picatinny rail vs a smooth rail for accessories. It also has adjustable sights and replaceable backstraps. I think the USP rides a holster better. It's a duty pistol for sure. It really likes SERPA and thigh holsters. It feeds everything. I have only had one ammo related (case length) FTF in over 2000 rounds; no joke. The full size is obviously more accurate, but you could go with a match grade barrel and tighten it up a bit if you so choose. My HK is used at fighting distance though, so I've never found it necessary to go the match route with it.

Here ya go (my HK):

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Tac56

Posted: Apr 29th 2010, 05:14 PM

I've never heard of anyone needing customer service at HK.

LOL, you have never worked on MP5's before then... Or the P7 series pistols.... HK has a fantastic reliability reputation in the market place and they have earned it, but.... like all things mechanical, they do fail and when they do, expect thier customer service to be a PIA to work with or to get parts from. Just as an example, I needed to replace a roller bearing clip in an MP5 that had broken. It took 6 phone calls and almost 6 months of badgering to get them to send me a $2 part so I could put the gun back in service again.... and this was as a Law Enformement Armorer, not john/jane doe gun owner...

-Tac

P.S. I have not heard of any mechanical issues or complaints with the USP or P30 series of pistols.

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Room 055

Posted: Apr 29th 2010, 05:35 PM

Ahhhh.... Modern vs. ancient HK designs my friend.

BTW, their LE/Gov/MIL customer service is different than their civilian customer service. One is in GA, and the other is in VA. I've had to deal with the run around on the former trying to get a LE MOD trigger, but the civy side doesn't get too bad of reviews from the HKFORUM group.

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suncat05

Posted: May 9th 2010, 12:36 PM

The only experiences I have had with H&K's is from my job, and my Sheriff here gives us good stuff to work with.

My first department issued weapon was an H&K USP Expert in .40 caliber S&W. Great shooting weapon, extremely accurate, smooth recoil(because of the double spring on the guide rod), and it carried 16 rounds(17 with one in the chamber). I loved it except for one thing: it weighed a ton. It was like carrying a boat anchor on my hip, and the weight started causing me problems on my hip and lower back.

I then asked for a change of weapon, and I was issued another H&K, a USP Compact in .40 caliber S&W. Shorter barrel, more felt recoil, but nearly as accurate and just as reliable. And a whole lot more comfortable to carry for 10-12 hours a day on my hip, along with all of the other crap I have to carry, as in a small flashlight, a MaCom radio, 2 sets of handcuffs, pepper spray, Taser & reload cartridge, non-latex gloves, and 2 magazines for reload for the H&K, in addition to the heavy ass genuine leather belt they issue to us. Of all the gear they give us, the only real gripe I have now is about the leather. If I could, I would just as soon wear nylon, as it cleans up better, it wears better, and it is certaily a lot lighter in regards to weight.

I do not own one personally, but I've had no problems, operationally speaking, with either H&K I've been issued. Fine handguns, easy to maintain, easy to shoot, accurate and reliable.

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