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Posted: Aug 15th 2010, 12:21 AM

I'm sorry I had to. I thought it was funny but the non gamers probably hate me for this one.

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Posted: Aug 15th 2010, 12:47 AM

lol thats funny however i didnt buy the map pack on mwf2

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Posted: Aug 15th 2010, 08:01 AM

Ya Know........You kids should go outside and play, The fresh air and sunshine is good for you

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Posted: Aug 15th 2010, 12:23 PM

That's some funny shit right there!

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Posted: Aug 15th 2010, 01:39 PM

lollol

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 12:35 PM

I only play one shooter game and never really knew what I had...
I guess the first step to a cure is identifying the problem. I have been shot in the head enough in the last two days it was a little sore when I got out of bed today.....and I don't play more than an hour every three days or so. It must be highly contagious.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 01:14 PM

Yes, it is contagious. My wife bought me "Hitman" (the first one) back in mid-2000's. I played that game almost continuously until I finished it. I basically only left the 'puter to eat, defecate and go to work. Needless to say, she will never buy me another game, for obvious reasons!

I have an Xbox, but not a 360...won't even buy one, cause I know what I'd do.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 01:20 PM

I know what you mean Recoil. I stopped buying any a long time ago because there is that obsessive urge to finish it as soon as possible, then four days later its all over, you feel that you just wasted $40 or whatever and you have to catch up at work/home.

So, I just stopped any of them a long long time ago. Fun as hell but I don't have time for that crap!

As a friend of mine once said after stepping outside his house from a bender... "Hot damn, the resolution out here is amazing!"

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 05:04 PM

Piss on Modern Warfare!

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is where it's at!

This is Modern Warfare 2:

What a bunch of F.A.G.S, right?

This is Bad Company 2:

Remember: F.R.A.G.S, not F.A.G.S.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 06:06 PM

Screw X-box. PS3 is a Blu-ray player too. I had a X-box 360 but it died.I think I over heated it.

Bad Company was suppose to be the big bad MW2 killer. It failed miserably. Not that it's a bad game overall. I own both they both have good and bad points. COD dominates as far as realistic sound even from which direction it comes from and the realism of footsteps. Sound is important to me having a Yamaha surround system just for my gaming. Graphics and weapons are better on COD. Can't forget calling in the ac130,chopper gunner and the nuke.

Now bad company dominates as far as realistic destruction of the environment and in the vehicle category. The tanks are bad ass. Nothing like seeing a enemy run in a building and blowing the whole wall out. i like the fact when you snipe you have to calculate your bullet drop..But as far as sound,speed,realistic movement,and graphics it sucks,maximum suckage.

Medal of Honor comes out in Oct. it's suppose to be good.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 06:24 PM

If you think Medal of Honor looks good, then you need to take a second look at BC2 ... MOH is nothing more than a re-presentation of BC2.

What system are you playing on?

On a good enough PC, BC2 really does pretty well destroy MW2. It's not nearly as good on one of th,e consoles.

I play it at 1920x1080 with everything cranked (I've got a pair of 4870's in crossfire, so it's not really that much of a strain) and BC2 is the best looking thing going right now.

However, if you want realism ... you need to take a look at Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. It's an older game - 2006 - but it's got completely accurate ballistics all the way, as well as real weapon sounds used in-game. Graphics are somewhat limited, given the age ... but it's THE best shooter out there right now, and it's cheap on Steam, too - $9.99 right now. http://store.steampowered.com/app/1200/

The follow-on is coming pretty soon, probably Q4 of '10 or Q1 of '11. It'll focus on Stalingrad.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 07:11 PM

Hey Foxtrot your showing your age. Games are $65.00 now.LOL

So your a PC gamer Bishop? Yeah I'm just on a PS3 with 20 meg fiber optic internet. The 20 megs doesn't give you any advantage though. I guess the game servers limit you or something I'm not sure. I'm no computer wiz by any means. Thats one of the reasons im on PS3 it's a hell of alot easier and cheaper. I wanted to do PC gaming but the first Command and Conquer game I bought made my computer come to a crawl and freeze sometimes. It didn't like the fact I tried to drop five or six nukes at once LOL. So I upgraded the video board which helped alot. But then I tried another game then I had to by a special controller which I never could get to work. I just couldn't deal with the buying something new or upgrading everytime i got a new game. I'm one of those people I want good out of the box performance with no modification. Which the performance in a box is possible it's just not for my price range.

I have a Mac notebook these days I'm not sure how good they are for gaming. I have never played any games on it.

I haven't seen BC2 on a PC so I really can't compare it. I'm sure on a custom set up it could be better.But on the PS3 they are not even close.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 07:55 PM

Shit, for less than a thousand bucks you can have a VERY nice gaming PC. For the price that you paid for a Macbook ... Jesus Christ. You could have a SCREAMING gaming PC.

Once you buy the parts, it takes maybe 30-60 minutes to assemble everything, depending on your level of familiarity. Even for an absolute novice, however, it shouldn't take any more of that.

Next time you need to put together a new PC, let me know. I can give you all the help you need.

If you're dead set on a laptop, still, a gaming laptop like the Asus G73 can come in lower than a nice MacBook, and it'll have a Core i7 in it, which I don't think any Mac has yet.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 08:49 PM

You wanna talk about showing your age? I have know idea what any of you guys are talking about.

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 08:58 PM

IP I feel the same way when goes go military. You guys have your own language but thats OK .

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Posted: Aug 16th 2010, 09:13 PM

Nothing wrong with it Jinxed... I was just showing my age. My son is getting ready to turn 17 and he asked for some stuff for his video game and I don't even know what kind of video console he has. Sometimes I feel really old... and I'm not that old, damn it.

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Posted: Aug 17th 2010, 08:43 AM

I feel old........

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Posted: Aug 17th 2010, 10:12 AM

I know I'm older than IP, since we've had that discussion. I've done some PC gaming, but nothing super recent other than some strategy games like Civilization IV. When I do play, I play on my Dell XPS M1730 with two nVidia GeForce 8700M GT's SLI'd together with 256mb per card. I can crank the resolution and everything stays smooth. The thing I've found when running highly intensive graphics apps is to not share memory with the motherboard.

I may have to buy one of the newer games. You guys are making me feel younger. Just don't tell my wife!

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Posted: Aug 25th 2010, 11:47 PM

"Hot damn, the resolution out here is amazing!" <-- That's fuc*ing hilarious!

My understanding of SLI is that even though you may have two 16x PCI express slots, when you run SLI both slots will run at half the speed (8x).
SLI always seemed to be more of a marketing idea to get you to buy two cards instead of one. Buying a 500Gb or higher card using the fastest RAMDAC and having the most pixel-pipelines will work just as well. If you can get a mobo to run SLI and not split the bandwidth by two you have a better shot at benefitting from SLI. My mobo does 3-way SLI but after reading up on SLI a bit I decided to go for the best card I could get and just go single. Not to mention, you double the power consumption with SLI but you don't double the speed of the GFX processing. You'd be better off with a top-o-the-line GFX card and extremely fast triple-channel ram and a fast dual or quad core CPU.

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Posted: Aug 26th 2010, 11:24 AM

Depends on your motherboard, Doe.

Some motherboards have only the one PCI-E channel, so you have to split the bandwidth between the two. So, you could run one slot at 16x, and the other one not at all, or run them both at 8x. Some boards, though - and these are the more expensive ones - you get separate channels between the two (or more) slots, so you can get 16x out of both of them.

I've got two ATI 4870's in my desktop machine (CrossfireX, obviously, not SLI). Some games, there's a HUGE difference with both cards enabled. Some games there's less of a difference, but it's still the difference between playable and unplayable. Some software doesn't work at all with it, and I have to disable the second card.

It just depends on the game, mostly.

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Posted: Aug 28th 2010, 06:41 PM

Have you ever used an Ageia Physx card in your system? The difference is incredible. When I built my current system, the 8800GT was the top Nvidia card. Adding the Physx card made water, fire and falling debris much more realistic and it let the GFX card do it's thing without worrying about the physics stuff. Unfortunately, Nvidia bought Ageia and closed it down. They incorporated Physx into their cards with the 9800 series. I figured in a Physx card for my kid's pc when I was building it and found out that with the 9800GT used the Physx card was superfluous. I still think my 8800GT with a separate Physx card is better than the 9800GT running it's own Physx.

I used to be a die-hard ATI guy but had a couple burn out in less than two years. Switched to Nvidia and am getting about four to five years out of them. Some say the ATIs run hot and burn out sooner. Either way, I will never buy an overclocked GFX card again. Four years still isn't enough time for me. The extra 50mhz wasn't worth it. I was hoping to add another 8800GT in SLI this year or next but since mine recently died, I'll just upgrade to a 9800GT.

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Posted: Aug 28th 2010, 07:07 PM

9800 GT and 8800 GT are the same card, actually. Only difference is a change in the BIOS so that the computer thinks they're different cards, so you can't add a 9800 to an 8800 and have SLI. Skip the 9xxx series and get a GT xxx, if you're dead set on nVidia.

As far as using a PhysX card, I can't use one at all with the ATI cards. The nVidia drivers only work for PhysX if you're using nVidia graphics, too. I thought about getting a cheap PCI card - GT250 maybe - just for the PhysX part ... was quite depressed to find out that it wouldn't work.

ATI hasn't had any trouble in a long while, so far as I know. They really re-set the bar with the 4870 and 4850 cards when they introduced them, and have had nVidia playing catch up ever since. I've had a 4870 since they were released, just about, and I've run it overclocked for most of that time. No problems whatsoever, ALTHOUGH I do run the fan at a higher manual setting than the automatic settings would have it at. Even when my computer is idle the fan runs at 50%, and my power bill shows it. When I bought my new laptop last month and started mostly using that instead of the desktop, my light bill dropped by $225!

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Posted: Aug 28th 2010, 07:35 PM

Both of my 8700M's are 16-bit when running in SLI mode. They also have PhysX and I can control it on both boards. When SLI'd, the drivers split loads between the two cards. While the processing speed is lower on each of these cards, the workload is 1/2, and the PhysX makes a huge difference. The nice thing about having two cards SLI'd is that both cards have their own memory, GPU's, and huge cooling fans. This isn't a laptop that you'd want to run on battery power in this configuration while gaming though. My wife's system has two ATI cards linked together. I can tell you that my nVideo cards outperform her ATI cards hands down and can handle much higher screen resolutions for the same programs. Her cards are 1 year newer as well. Say what you want about nVidia vs ATI, but I'm sold on nVidia with PhysX for graphic intensive programs. The other cool thing about running two cards is the ability to run multiple monitors. I can run a DVD through the HDMI output to my 46" HD tv while continuing to run my PC with absolutely no slow down in performance from the PC.

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Posted: Sep 8th 2010, 02:30 AM

I'm getting a GIGABYTE Radeon HD 5830 1GB in the next week or so. Most of the specs outperform the GTX460 that I was considering. I have two original Ageia PhysX cards (1 PCI and 1 PCI-e1) with the Ageia drivers so it should work with the ATI card. Since Nvidia bought out Ageia, there are driver issues trying to run both on the later 8800GTs, 9800s and up.

At the moment I'm posting from my wife's laptop. My PC is down because of the dead 8800GT, no onboard gfx. My kids pc is giving me fits with rebooting and bluescreening. I tracked the BSODs to the wireless utility that came with the wireless card. Got rid of it and am running the card through windows wireless zero cfg. The rebooting seems to be from the PSU. It's fairly new and of good quality, I have to see if I can RMA it. My father bought it for him in the past year so I should be able to RMA if I can find the box and if my father saved the original order confirmation email and/or packing list.

This PC is raising my stress levels to no end. I upgraded the CPU to a Core2 Duo and the damned thing wouldn't boot. RMA'd that and then it booted fine. Started getting BSODs at that point. Installed the wireless card at same time. Replaced the mobo and ram with faster ram and a mobo with SATA. Rebooting started somewhere in this time frame. It seems like every time I change something a new problem pops up. If my range allowed me to shoot junk I'd probably use his pc as a reactive target. :)

I'm building some mid-range gaming PCs for my bosses kids. Coming in right around 1k each for parts. Building them with:
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (has two 6.0Gb/s SATA ports)
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
OCZ Blade SuperTuned 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" (2 each)
Sony Optiarc Black 24X CD/DVD Burner

When he asked how much I'd charge him to build them I said to just buy three of the ATI cards and I'd keep one for my time.

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